Sodium intake correlates positively with life expectancy and inversely with all-cause mortality

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[LadyRae]

Hi - my first post here.
Generously salting my food has had big positive impact on my health (compared with history of thinking I needed to hold back on adding 'bad' salt to meals). Used to struggle with dizziness, low blood pressure - no issues now, my blood pressure is good. I also now have warm extremities and my mood feels solid and stable too, and I don't get stressed as easily as I used to. I don't know if these latter changes are due to increased salt - but I have a sense that they are.

Welcome!
Same! I liberally salt most of my food, I use a Himalayan sea salt. As far as water retention goes, my experience is the opposite of what they would have you think. Increasing my salt decreases any water retention... And I sleep better too

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

This article is interesting, but the end doesn’t sound quite right. Doctors have been prescribing low to no salt diets for more than fifty years, so salt intake is quite different.

 

[GreenPea]

Welcome!
Same! I liberally salt most of my food, I use a Himalayan sea salt. As far as water retention goes, my experience is the opposite of what they would have you think. Increasing my salt decreases any water retention... And I sleep better too

Thanks!
Yes, I too have no probs with water retention. Unfortunately, my sleep is a different story and remains ongoing issue - despite experimenting with keeping salt/ sugar levels topped up etc

 

[mamakitty]

I put salt on everything, even in my coffee and in my milkshakes. Salt is a good anti-histamine too.

Haha same! But I have always done that because of taste preference nor for health reasons. I always salt my desserts too as I cannot stand overly sweet desserts bleh

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

Haha same! But I have always done that because of taste preference nor for health reasons. I always salt my desserts too as I cannot stand overly sweet desserts bleh

Same here, I never bought into the idea that salt was a bad thing. I got the idea from horses and their “salt blocks”. Like RP has said, veterinarians make better doctors.

 

[mamakitty]

Same here, I never bought into the idea that salt was a bad thing. I got the idea from horses and their “salt blocks”. Like RP has said, veterinarians make better doctors.

Veterinarian part is true because they stick to science and hard facts, not feelings and zeitgeist.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

Veterinarian part is true because they stick to science and hard facts, not feelings and zeitgeist.

It is interesting the differences.

 

[Peatress]

@LadyRae @Rinse & rePeat @GreenPea

How many grams of salt/day do you use? Thanks

 

[LadyRae]

@LadyRae @Rinse & rePeat @GreenPea

How many grams of salt/day do you use? Thanks

Hi! Well I honestly don't measure it, I just sprinkle it (Himalayan pink salt) liberally on almost everything. A few times I can tell that I overdid it because when I go to bed at night I will feel a little puffy. A few times a week I wrap up my scrambled eggs in nori sheets and I eat a fair amount of shrimp and lots of oysters and liver and beef heart so I'm not too worried about the non-iodized aspect of the Himalayan salt.

A few times a week I take a couple drops of lugol's 2%.

I also stir in a half teaspoon of potassium bicarbonate into a few drinks throughout the day. Even though I eat a lot of fruit I found that this feels really good in my system

 

[Peatress]

Hi! Well I honestly don't measure it, I just sprinkle it (Himalayan pink salt) liberally on almost everything. A few times I can tell that I overdid it because when I go to bed at night I will feel a little puffy. A few times a week I wrap up my scrambled eggs in nori sheets and I eat a fair amount of shrimp and lots of oysters and liver and beef heart so I'm not too worried about the non-iodized aspect of the Himalayan salt.

A few times a week I take a couple drops of lugol's 2%.

I also stir in a half teaspoon of potassium bicarbonate into a few drinks throughout the day. Even though I eat a lot of fruit I found that this feels really good in my system

OK thanks. Doesn't that much potassium bicarbonate make your urine too alkaline?

 

[LadyRae]

OK thanks. Doesn't that much potassium bicarbonate make your urine too alkaline?

I don't know. My pee looks/feels fine to me. Not cloudy, foamy or burny

 

[Peatress]

I don't know. My pee looks/feels fine to me. Not cloudy, foamy or burny

Good to know thanks. Edit - I don't tolerate bicarbonates at all. I think it's because of my high milk intake.

 

[GTW]

The graphs go only to 6 gms sodium per day, which is, in fact, near the sweet spot in the U curve other analyses found to be optimum.
Both published editorial comments point out the pitfalls of the study.
Blood pressure has a stronger association with longevity, and sodium is often used as a proxy for blood pressure, in turn a proxy for longevity/overall health.
There is no conceivable endorsement here for intake greater than 6 gm Na.

 

[GTW]

In a swarm of variables and associations, many difficult to measure, I think K/Na consumption is a stronger predictor of health.

 

[Peatress]

The graphs go only to 6 gms sodium per day, which is, in fact, near the sweet spot in the U curve other analyses found to be optimum.
Both published editorial comments point out the pitfalls of the study.
Blood pressure has a stronger association with longevity, and sodium is often used as a proxy for blood pressure, in turn a proxy for longevity/overall health.
There is no conceivable endorsement here for intake greater than 6 gm Na.

@45 mins Dr Peat says giving women with toxemia an extra 20 grams of salt per day resolved their issues in pregnancy. 20 grams is a lot of salt.

 

[GTW]

1 tsp salt is roughly 5 gm. Salt is roughly half Na?
In any case, treatment for pregnancy toxemia is hardly the norm.
>Dose, host, timing and combinations make a poison or a cure. As Paracelsus identified 500 years ago, the basis of toxicology.

 

[Peatress]

1 tsp salt is roughly 5 gm. Salt is roughly half Na?
In any case, treatment for pregnancy toxemia is hardly the norm.
>Dose, host, timing and combinations make a poison or a cure. As Paracelsus identified 500 years ago, the basis of toxicology.

You are right, it is not the norm but remember the question was about a young person who was having fluid pooling in the feet.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

@LadyRae @Rinse & rePeat @GreenPea

How many grams of salt/day do you use? Thanks

I have no idea, but I use the big flakey salt all day long.

 

[mamakitty]

Blood pressure has a stronger association with longevity,

As in the higher the blood pressure, the longer the life?