TripleOG
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Seeing how “diet” is separated from “lifestyle,” what was toxic about Ray Peat’s lifestyle suggestions? They were usually the most accepted suggestions he offered.
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I've read somewhere (don't remember where) about the head shape and the tightness of the skin on the scalp. Have you come across any good solutions for this?He had MPB before he started liver detox, and by the way Males go bald in the top region due to head shape, that squeezes the small arterioles on the top of head. not good or bad health. I have plenty of patients that have the worst health , amputated, wounds from diabetes, yet have full head of hair. which is rare now days for men his age.
The only options to date that I know of is Detumenscence therapy, extreme scalp massages that will help break up the calcified galea and scalp. There was a book written 20 years ago about scalp presses to re-shape the skull. It takes years , but the results are real, but the person has to keep doing them everyday and know that it will help.I've read somewhere (don't remember where) about the head shape and the tightness of the skin on the scalp. Have you come across any good solutions for this?
If fructose and VA are poisons, why is there some people who eat a lot of fructose (from honey, for example) and milk every day throughout their lives and are much healthier than people who promote a diet of meat, muscle and rice, including you and Garett?
According to your God in Genesis, he gave us the freedom to eat all the fruits of the earth, so its certainly not about god's freedom:
"29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
I am two years in and doing just fine. Grant Genereux is 10 years in and thriving. Dr. Garrett Smith is around 5 years in and is thriving. The reason why the grapes helped me at first was because I was poisoned from the Ray Peat diet and the low "vitamin A" part of grape diet brought me immediate relief. But obviously I started running into protein problems. It was a last ditch effort to get me out of the toxic Peat diet. But now, we know why the Ray Peat diet is so toxic and it has been fixed and people are thriving.@charlie I feel you. Been wanting to find a new nutrition/health paradigm for years without being able to find anything better than Ray's. Still am. Happy it works for you and you are feeling better. Just please remember everything has a honey moon phase. With all respects, I have seen you becoming ultra excited with other stuff (the grapes thing for the kidneys) just to ditch it a few months after.
When you do become interested, Grant Genereuxs free ebooks is a great place to start:I am still ignorant about most of the low Vit-A thing theories etc. and not really interested on pursuing it for now. BUT...
Thanks charlie. Appreciate it :)When you do become interested, Grant Genereuxs free ebooks is a great place to start:
My eBooks
Here’s a list of my three eBooks, They are completely free. Please freely share them as much as you want. Extinguishing the Fires of Hell This eBook is really a chronology of my early investi…ggenereux.blog
I'd like to add that the sooner you try it, the sooner you'll know.I am still ignorant about most of the low Vit-A thing theories etc. and not really interested on pursuing it for now.
You realize we could be in 2015 and you be telling a random user on the internet the same thing about eating sugar by the spoon and eating liver by the pound? A bit of zooming out (and respect) please.I'd like to add that the sooner you try it, the sooner you'll know.
If you're still floating around the forum here and you've been willing to tamper with other dietary paradigms in the past, then our enthusiastic word of encouragement could well be the straw that breaks the camel's back for you to ameliorate your own ignorance. I'd suppose it would take anyone less than a week to realize for themselves that something substantial happens when the core vit-A restriction tenets are met.
Hope you feel better soon ^.^
You called yourself ignorant about the low vitamin A stuff and you also said that you're still looking for a new nutrition/health paradigm.You realize we could be in 2015 and you be telling a random user on the internet the same thing about eating sugar by the spoon and eating liver by the pound? A bit of zooming out (and respect) please.
Sure mate.You called yourself ignorant about the low vitamin A stuff and you also said that you're still looking for a new nutrition/health paradigm.
Being ignorant isn't a slur (nor am I trying to use it as one), it's a status.
Based on those two things, I'm volunteering as another yapping bandwagoner saying that the low vitamin A stuff is worthy of any health-seeker's time, just to know, if nothing else.
Ignorance and knowledge cannot occupy the same space.
I’m 5.5 years in myself although I’ve taken the slower detox route. I was only ultra low the first year and a half.Sure mate.
Blossom :)I’m 5.5 years in myself although I’ve taken the slower detox route. I was only ultra low the first year and a half.
I think it's worth noting that there is a lot more to the toxic bile theory/low toxin diet approach than just vitamin A toxicity. Vitamin A just happens to be one of the most common substances that places a big load on the detoxification capacity of the body.Why is "VitA is poison i feel much better now" different than "PUFA is posion i am depleting it and feeling much better". Don't you see a trend there?
Now the anti-vitA are cherry picking studies to support the whole thing exactly as people was cherry picking studies to reinforce Peats ideas.
Yes, I’ve had doubts along the way tbh and I think that’s natural honestly. I’ve even tried loosening up a few times and I generally seem to tolerate it fine (which I didn’t in the first 1.5 years) but I gradually start feeling worse and return to eating low A. I apparently have plenty in storage after all this time so I’ve just decided to eat the way that works best for me while all the details get hashed out. I see it as something a person could try when they’ve tried everything else or if they know they’ve gone overboard with liver or supplements. I personally haven’t promoted through the years because I didn’t feel it was my place. I have mentioned looking into it to a few people privately (when asked) who had issues and nothing left to try though. It has helped me quite a bit. I don’t follow anyone else’s version of low A exactly but have designed my own way of eating to fit with my personal preferences, tolerances and goals.Blossom :)
And how is it going? 5.5 years are quite a lot. I don't doubt it works for many people. I simply find it as unbalanced as I found RPforum-inspired diet since the very beginning (which was an exaggeration of Ray's principles).
Why is "VitA is poison i feel much better now" different than "PUFA is posion i am depleting it and feeling much better". Don't you see a trend there?
Now the anti-vitA are cherry picking studies to support the whole thing exactly as people was cherry picking studies to reinforce Peats ideas.
I am thinking out loud. I genuinely wish everyone here the best. I consider you guys mature enough to detect if something works genuinely or not but it is unevitable that these thoughts come to mind.
I can't say I ever felt anything when I quit eating all PUFAs. But I could see and feel a big difference when I cut out vit A foods and beta carotene. I turned pink instead of yellow for one thing.Why is "VitA is poison i feel much better now" different than "PUFA is posion i am depleting it and feeling much better". Don't you see a trend there?
Thanks Blossom :)Yes, I’ve had doubts along the way tbh and I think that’s natural honestly. I’ve even tried loosening up a few times and I generally seem to tolerate it fine (which I didn’t in the first 1.5 years) but I gradually start feeling worse and return to eating low A. I apparently have plenty in storage after all this time so I’ve just decided to eat the way that works best for me while all the details get hashed out. I see it as something a person could try when they’ve tried everything else or if they know they’ve gone overboard with liver or supplements. I personally haven’t promoted through the years because I didn’t feel it was my place. I have mentioned looking into it to a few people privately (when asked) who had issues and nothing left to try though. It has helped me quite a bit. I don’t follow anyone else’s version of low A exactly but have designed my own way of eating to fit with my personal preferences, tolerances and goals.