Theta
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The casein amino acid profile is similar to whey protein. Why is casein protein recommended but whey protein is not "Peaty" (too much Tryptophan)?
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Casein amino acid profile is not the same as the one of whey. Whey has way more tryptophan. You possibly took a look at a casein with added free aminos, which is very common.Theta said:post 119528 The casein amino acid profile is similar to whey protein. Why is casein protein recommended but whey protein is not "Peaty" (too much Tryptophan)?
Could you explain why you think you need to lower Iron to lose the weight?
I would also like to point out the obvious, that weight loss/health improvements are IMPOSSIBLE in the presence of alcohol. It is entirely toxic with no beneficial properties, and I would hesitate to agree that anyone who drinks it can say they are on a Ray Peat inspired diet. I was doing a lot of these things before I stopped drinking, and hardly saw any improvements in health. It was not until I stopped drinking altogether that I saw cumulative gains in health and wellness.
Alcohol is estrogenic, and consuming it causes a huge cascade of stress and estrogenic hormones. This is especially pronounced in Men, but don't kid yourself into thinking you can drink in moderation and see positive Peat results. It won't happen.
If you find the idea of giving up alcohol alarming, there are great support groups you can join for friendship, fun, and personal growth. I am part of one and through it I learned how to enjoy life and relax without the aid of alcohol.
Protein before bed (I use casein) and Potatoes are really important. Don't cut all starch just grain starch. If you eat too much less (calorie deprivation) your stress hormones rise and you won't lose weight.
Weight gain is basically a function of endotoxin on the liver. To combat it you have to reduce body iron levels so stomach bacteria don't grow so dramatically, then get enough protein and carbs so your body can repair, heal, and create plenty of good hormones. A deficit of carbs, protein, or calories sets off stress hormones that inflame the liver and encourage bacterial overgrowth.
What does your diet look like? You talk about carb and protein but don't say much about the fat sources you use?
Would you think skin issues and acne is a result of endotoxins in the gut and or liver? My liver labs recently showed no signs of any problems although I have persistent acne and dry skin?
No grains
No polyunsaturated fats
(obviously the above can't be perfect, but it can be thorough)
High fruit
High protein
Moderate to high fat—highly saturated sources like milk/cream/butter/coconut. Occasionally I've done low/no fat to speed weight loss, but it doesn't seem to be more powerful than just sticking to this diet in general.
Occasionally I get acne if I take too much vitamin A, but if you have any grains and/or a lot of red meat in your diet that could be why. It's mostly due to the high iron content of fortified wheat and the high iron content of red meat. If you cut out those sources of high iron, and supplement coriander (cilantro) to chelate the iron in your gut you should see a reduction of acne. Adding generous amounts of butter to your diet will relieve the dry skin (I had really badly dry cracked heels and when I started Peating and specifically introduced regular amounts of butter they healed up fully and are now soft)... oh and alcohol dries the skin so if you drink you'll just have to live with dry skin.
Thanks for the great info, man. I've also been reading your blog - really well done.No grains
No polyunsaturated fats
(obviously the above can't be perfect, but it can be thorough)
High fruit
High protein
Moderate to high fat—highly saturated sources like milk/cream/butter/coconut. Occasionally I've done low/no fat to speed weight loss, but it doesn't seem to be more powerful than just sticking to this diet in general.
Occasionally I get acne if I take too much vitamin A, but if you have any grains and/or a lot of red meat in your diet that could be why. It's mostly due to the high iron content of fortified wheat and the high iron content of red meat. If you cut out those sources of high iron, and supplement coriander (cilantro) to chelate the iron in your gut you should see a reduction of acne. Adding generous amounts of butter to your diet will relieve the dry skin (I had really badly dry cracked heels and when I started Peating and specifically introduced regular amounts of butter they healed up fully and are now soft)... oh and alcohol dries the skin so if you drink you'll just have to live with dry skin.
Thank you! No there are many toxic compounds in wheat. Phytoestrogens and anti-digestion compounds meant to prevent the wheat seed from being eaten. Grain starch is also chaotic for cellular health. Sorry to say, trust me, I loved bread. I find the key to avoiding them is to instead focus on eating other things like potatoes.Thanks for the great info, man. I've also been reading your blog - really well done.
Sorry if you've addressed this already, but is your only objection to grains the iron content? Because my wife comes from a.big bread eating family, so I have started making bread at home for her which isn't fortified with iron and doesn't include vitamins.
Thanks Lindsay. Yes I was especially relieved to find that out. My days of endless hunger are no more.Congratulations on your success! That is fantastic and you look super! It's good to see that success can be achieved without limiting food and calories :)
Yes. Butter can help raise body temp and metabolism.I think cracked heels and dry skin are a hypo thyroid or at least cold low metabolism symptom.
wanted to know what percentage of fat would say you were/are eating in your program
Thank you for the link Charlie, I appreciate it :) Wow, that's a lot of fat Nate was taking! I have read (somewhere) that some people do really well on an "actual" fat diet. Where they predominately just eat fat and very little other stuff. Obviously it works for him. But then again he is a big guy (6'7")