What helps rosacea... and where can I find it!

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L. Reuteri:
  • Helps with sleep
  • Increases oxytocin
  • More collagen deposition
  • Wrinkle reduction
  • Sleep, extended REM phase
  • Sleep, deeper
  • Stress, reduced
  • Fat loss, visceral
  • Weight loss
  • Muscle, increased
  • Strength, increased
  • Produces antimicrobial molecules, which inhibit the colonization of pathogenic microbes and remodels the microbiome
  • Benefits the immune system, and reduces the production of pro-inflammatory cytokines while promoting regulatory T cell development and function
  • Fights candida
  • Improves Skin, Muscle Growth, Bone Density, Slenderness, and Insulin Sensitivity
  • Some strains reduce pro-inflammatory cytokines while promoting regulatory T cell development and function.
  • Strengthens intestinal barrier, which decreases microbial translocation and inflammation
  • Ergothioneine, a metabolite of L. reuteri, prevents stress-induced sleep disturbances, especially those associated with depression
Most people in Western society had L reuteri in their bowel flora up until the mid-twentieth century, according to Dr. Gerhard Reuter, the discover of L. reuteri, from infants on up.
Most people would likely have obtained L. reuteri via breastfeeding from their mothers as a baby, as this is where it was originally obtained (from a woman living in the highlands of Peru)
Most people in the 21st century lack this microorganism, like part of the changing landscape of the microbiome due to antibiotics, herbicides,/pesticides, etc.

2 qts of whole or low fat A2 milk (if A2 is available)
9 tsps lactose powder (some people use inulin, but I do not)
3 crushed Biogaia Gastrus tablets (L. reuteri DSM 17938 and L. reuteri ATCC PTA 6475)

Sterilise the Luvele yogurt making glass jar, lid and any utensils in boiling hot water. Do this by boiling a kettle and carefully pouring the hot water over the equipment. Do not submerge equipment in boiling water.

Pour milk into a large clean saucepan on the stove top and heat milk to 180° F (skip this and go straight to step 4 if your milk is already ultra pasteurized).
Hold at 180 for 30 minutes. If the milk boils briefly, reduce the heat and continue.
Let cool in the fridge to 97 F. It is ok if the milk goes cold. Skim casein from top.
In a bowl, combine 2 tablespoons of milk with 9 tsps lactose powder, and crushed gastrus. Make a slurry.
Add slurry to Luvele container.
Add rest of milk to Luvele.
Set Luvele to 97 F for 36 hours.
When done, pour yogurt in strainer (Hatrigo 1-Gallon Extra Fine Mesh Large Stainless Steel Strainer).
Place a lid on the strainer and place it in the fridge.
Let the yogurt strain for 24 hours.
Put yogurt (now creamy) into glass bowl and put into the fridge.
This will last about a week in the fridge.
Pour liquid (whey and lactic acid) from strainer into sink.

See this for Peat's advice on straining out lactic acid:

The first batch tends to be a bit thinner with curdles, but subsequent batches tend to be thicker and smoother. To make a new batch, take 1 tbsp of your new yogurt and use it to start a new 36-hour culture (without the Gastrus).

Every 4 cycles of making new yogurt with just the old yogurt as the starter, use also 3 Gastrus tablets (3 tablets plus 1 tbsp of the old yogurt).
 
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Meanwhile, if not already, just use tea tree oil and apple cider vinegar every morning and night
on a cotton ball on your face as a toner and that should help while vitamins take hold.
When using this on the face, do you mix equal parts together or apply them separately?
 

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Suppressing a detox pathway with minocycline is not the way to treat "vitamin A" toxicity. Not only are you suppressing a detox pathway you are damaging the liver in the long run.


Using toxic Ivermection to stop a detox pathway is asking for trouble later down the road.

The rosacea is from "vitamin A" toxicity. A low toxin and low "vitamin A" diet and lifestyle fixes this.
"Suppressing a detox pathway with minocycline is not the way to treat "vitamin A" toxicity." Charlie, just how would minocycline suppress a detox pathway? How does one diagnose someone who only shares that they have rosacea as having vitamin A toxicity? Thanks.
 

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"Suppressing a detox pathway with minocycline is not the way to treat "vitamin A" toxicity." Charlie, just how would minocycline suppress a detox pathway? How does one diagnose someone who only shares that they have rosacea as having vitamin A toxicity? Thanks.
He wasn't "diagnosing" anyone, the point is that ALL rosacea is caused by retinoic acid. Why exactly too much retinoic acid is ending up in the skin in this location without the body being able to move it along the waste elimination systems may vary from individual to individual but as far as addressing the problem I'm not sure those differences are super relevant.

Suppressing detox pathways is also the way that most antibiotics function. I have a hunch that it may even be true of all antibiotics but I haven't exhaustively researched them all.
 

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He wasn't "diagnosing" anyone, the point is that ALL rosacea is caused by retinoic acid. Why exactly too much retinoic acid is ending up in the skin in this location without the body being able to move it along the waste elimination systems may vary from individual to individual but as far as addressing the problem I'm not sure those differences are super relevant.

Suppressing detox pathways is also the way that most antibiotics function. I have a hunch that it may even be true of all antibiotics but I haven't exhaustively researched them all.
Kind of puzzling -- arguably the best way to treat rosacea (retinoic acid) causes rosacea? Maybe the anti-inflammatory actions of both retinoic acid and minocycline are the reason they improve inflammatory conditions like rosacea.
 

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Kind of puzzling -- arguably the best way to treat rosacea (retinoic acid) causes rosacea? Maybe the anti-inflammatory actions of both retinoic acid and minocycline are the reason they improve inflammatory conditions like rosacea.
Neither retinoic acid nor minocycline are directly anti-inflammatory. Really "anti-inflammatory" is a thoroughly useless phrase for describing how anything works in the body. Minocyline can have the short term effect of reducing apparent inflammation by keeping toxins like retinoic acid from beng processed and excreted, thereby keeping them locked away in more inert storage forms. The process of detoxifying anything toxic can be "inflammatory" but is neccessary to get it out of the body.

Using retinoic acid to treat rosacea is like using the hair of the dog to treat a hangover, or arsenic for acne, or chemo for cancer. Retinoic acid is of course used as a chemotherapy agent after all. Using enough topically will kill the skin cells thouroughly enough to cause them all to be replenished and appear healthier, until the stem cells are eventually all dead.
 

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Neither retinoic acid nor minocycline are directly anti-inflammatory. Really "anti-inflammatory" is a thoroughly useless phrase for describing how anything works in the body. Minocyline can have the short term effect of reducing apparent inflammation by keeping toxins like retinoic acid from beng processed and excreted, thereby keeping them locked away in more inert storage forms. The process of detoxifying anything toxic can be "inflammatory" but is neccessary to get it out of the body.

Using retinoic acid to treat rosacea is like using the hair of the dog to treat a hangover, or arsenic for acne, or chemo for cancer. Retinoic acid is of course used as a chemotherapy agent after all. Using enough topically will kill the skin cells thouroughly enough to cause them all to be replenished and appear healthier, until the stem cells are eventually all dead.
I see, thank you. You probably have studied for a long time; you speak so assuredly. Can you suggest a non-toxic way to address lichen planopilaris, the dreaded inflammatory scalp condition?
 

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I see, thank you. You probably have studied for a long time; you speak so assuredly. Can you suggest a non-toxic way to address lichen planopilaris, the dreaded inflammatory scalp condition?
I haven't read about this specific condition before but I do suspect any condition that is considered "autoimmune" involves some kind of toxicity, with the immune cell presence being there for the function of cleaning up the toxins and the damaged cell constituents from the poisoned cells.

Some things you could look into trying would be topical application of activated charcoal to remove toxins in the skin and well as topical co-factors for general detoxification like zinc, niacin (not niacinamide), magnesium and potassium. For topical zinc, the organic form zinc nicotinate (zinc bound to niacin) seems to be especially well absorbed.

Be aware that niacin can make skin and hair conditions get worse before they get better because the toxins are being freed up as they get detoxified. If you try niacin, even topical, you would probably want to go slow with increasing from small amounts in order to avoid increasing hair loss. The immune system and lymphatic systems can only clear so much toxic debris at once.

In general the low-toxin diet approach would be the long term thing for any kind of toxicity issue but the toxin could also be an environmental exposure that needs to be identified and removed before the stored toxicity can be dealt with by the body.
 
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