You may be onto something with this "High Serotonin Bad" thing... (Organic acids test result with very elevated 5-HIAA)

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I decided to go over all of the organic acids tests (OAT) I've run in the past on my clients to see if I could find correlations between 5-HIAA and poorer health status at the time of sample collection, and low and behold I saw this:

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5-HIAA, the serotonin metabolite is more than 3x higher than the top of the reference range, and along with it quinolinic acid is elevated indicating a lot of inflammation. But that's just the start of it...

This person had recently been in hospital for a couple of weeks with severe health issues, and a bunch of other markers were indicating a lot of dysfunction.

For example, signs of severe mitochondrial dysfunction (basically only one marker within range, rest is very elevated):

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Also build up of lactic and pyruvic acid:

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A lot of Candida and yeast overgrowth:
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More indicators of intestinal dysbiosis (likely due to colonisation after the antibiotics):
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Strong indication of glutathione deficiency (marker is even more elevated when factoring in creatinine and sample dilution):


And a riboflavin deficiency to boot:
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This is pretty much the only time I've seen such an elevated 5-HIAA, and just so happens to be in the person with the most health issues we've ever ran the test on. Pretty fascinating. I wonder could the serotonin be a response to all these stressors or a driver of dysfunction. It may indeed be a combination of the two, but it certainly merits further research.
 
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I decided to go over all of the organic acids tests (OAT) I've run in the past on my clients to see if I could find correlations between 5-HIAA and poorer health status at the time of sample collection, and low and behold I saw this:

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5-HIAA, the serotonin metabolite is more than 3x higher than the top of the reference range, and along with it quinolinic acid is elevated indicating a lot of inflammation. But that's just the start of it...

This person had recently been in hospital for a couple of weeks with severe health issues, and a bunch of other markers were indicating a lot of dysfunction.

For example, signs of severe mitochondrial dysfunction (basically only one marker within range, rest is very elevated):

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Also build up of lactic and pyruvic acid:

View attachment 53820

A lot of Candida and yeast overgrowth:
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More indicators of intestinal dysbiosis (likely due to colonisation after the antibiotics): View attachment 53822

Strong indication of glutathione deficiency (marker is even more elevated when factoring in creatinine and sample dilution):


And a riboflavin deficiency to boot:
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This is pretty much the only time I've seen such an elevated 5-HIAA, and just so happens to be in the person with the most health issues we've ever ran the test on. Pretty fascinating. I wonder could the serotonin be a response to all these stressors or a driver of dysfunction. It may indeed be a combination of the two, but it certainly merits further research.
Hi.
Interesting.
Do you know any lab in Europe doing this kind of test?
I am from Portugal.
Thanks.
 
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Have you any experience with methylene blue?
I am considerig getting some currently to test on myself, so no. I stick with the more conventional mitochondrial support supplements and lifestyle recommendations (which are even more important with folks that have poor lifestyle choices that lead to ill-health). The more "fringe" stuff I would only recommend after extensive self-testing and research, especially with older folks or those that are fairly compromised.
 

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I am considerig getting some currently to test on myself, so no. I stick with the more conventional mitochondrial support supplements and lifestyle recommendations (which are even more important with folks that have poor lifestyle choices that lead to ill-health). The more "fringe" stuff I would only recommend after extensive self-testing and research, especially with older folks or those that are fairly compromised.

I'd be very interested in your results!
 
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Hi.
Interesting.
Do you know any lab in Europe doing this kind of test?
I am from Portugal.
Thanks.
Oh nice, I live in Portugal. The lab that does this OAT is in the US, but I work with an intermediary lab in Euope that facilitates the shipping, so can hook you up if you want to run it. DM if you'd like .
 
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I'd be very interested in your results!
I just need to find a vendor that is in the EU and I am getting some. I do take a lot of stuff though so new things generally don't move the needle much! But I am super looking forward to starting the pregenolone that should be arriving this week.
 

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I decided to go over all of the organic acids tests (OAT) I've run in the past on my clients to see if I could find correlations between 5-HIAA and poorer health status at the time of sample collection, and low and behold I saw this:

View attachment 53817

5-HIAA, the serotonin metabolite is more than 3x higher than the top of the reference range, and along with it quinolinic acid is elevated indicating a lot of inflammation. But that's just the start of it...

This person had recently been in hospital for a couple of weeks with severe health issues, and a bunch of other markers were indicating a lot of dysfunction.

For example, signs of severe mitochondrial dysfunction (basically only one marker within range, rest is very elevated):

View attachment 53819

Also build up of lactic and pyruvic acid:

View attachment 53820

A lot of Candida and yeast overgrowth:
View attachment 53821

More indicators of intestinal dysbiosis (likely due to colonisation after the antibiotics): View attachment 53822

Strong indication of glutathione deficiency (marker is even more elevated when factoring in creatinine and sample dilution):


And a riboflavin deficiency to boot:
View attachment 53823


This is pretty much the only time I've seen such an elevated 5-HIAA, and just so happens to be in the person with the most health issues we've ever ran the test on. Pretty fascinating. I wonder could the serotonin be a response to all these stressors or a driver of dysfunction. It may indeed be a combination of the two, but it certainly merits further research.
What vendor can someone use in the US to get this test done?
 
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