energyandstruct
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I have seen some people in the forum claim that they thought pregnenolone increased their estrogen levels. According to this study, pregnenolone should in fact lower estrogen by inhibiting aromatase. Peat has already written extensively on progesterone being a known aromatase inhibitor, so that is no news:
The concentrations of pregnenolone used were not high at all - 500nM inhibited aromatase by about 25%. Perhaps ore importantly, neither pregnenolone not progesterone could be used as a substrate for aromatase - i.e. they could not be used as source material for synthesizing more estrogen. Some people on the Internet keep claiming pregnenolone or progesterone gave them immediate estrogen symptoms. Well, this study suggests that this is unlikely as neither pregnenolone nor progesterone could be used as raw materials by aromatase for making more estrogen.
Finally, the study also tested the 5-AR steroids commonly discussed on this forum - i.e. DHT, androsterone, androstanedione and androstanediol. They all inhibited aromatase in concentrations of 500nM and androsterone specifically inhibited aromatase by about 45%. A dose of about 2mg can achieve concentrations of 500nM. Another study posted in the androsterone threads showed that a twice as high concentration (1uM) inhibited aromatase by more than 90%. See attached images for more info.
FSH-induced aromatase activity in porcine granulosa cells: non-competitive inhibition by non-aromatizable androgens. - PubMed - NCBI
"...Other steroids such as pregnenolone and progesterone were inhibitory, but testosterone and diethylstilboestrol were stimulatory."
"...As shown in Fig. 3, a 100-fold increase in oestradiol production was evident in cell culture containing FSH and testosterone during induction. All the other steroids were ineffective as substrates for aromatase. Similarly, during the test period the synthesis of oestradiol was significantly (p<0.05) enhanced in cells previously exposed to testosterone (160%) or DES (25%) and FSH, when compared with that of the FSH-stimulated ones. However, the presence of pregnenolone, progesterone and DHT (during the induction) significantly (p<0.05) decreased the FSH-induced aromatization of testosterone."
"...To examine whether other 5-reduced C19 androgens also inhibit FSH-induced aromatase activity, granulosa cells were cultured for an initial induction period of 48h in the presence and absense of FSH with or without 0.5uM/L DHT, 5α-androsterone, 5α-androstane-3α,17β-diol, 5α-androstane-3α,17β-dione and 5β-androstane-3,17-dione. After the induction, the cells were incubated for an additional 6h. All the androgens tested were effective in significantly (p<0.05) reducing the aromatization of testosterone (Fig. 5). 5β-androstanedione was the most effective (57%) while DHT was the least (33%) when compared with cultures containing only FSH (Fig. 5, insert)."
Here is another study referenced by the one above, which also found the 5-AR derived steroids to inhibit aromatase, even when used in low physiological concentrations.
http://joe.endocrinology-journals.org.sci-hub.bz/content/84/3/409.long
I took pregnenolone for the second time today to address my fatigue and low cortisol. It has made me very, very irritable, seemed to increase stress hormones, and just seems overall estrogenic. Is there no way that pregnenolone can increase estrogen? i know people that have said that they were measured and that pregnenolone increased their estrogen. Is there something that prevents the dhea in your system from turning into estrogen?
the experience was not merely negative, but it was strange. At first I felt more tension/anxiety. Then i felt some mood uplift and euphoria but it didn't feel that great kinda like a drug...
And then I just started feeling irritable as ****--- way more than usual, like it feels like a physical feeling. I got in way more arguments and just feel "bitchy" for lack of a better word. This seems to be way more associated with estrogen than progesterone, in fact progesterone dropping is thought to cause irritability...
any thoughts?
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