Nick Ireland
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Primobolan is a DHT derived anabolic steroid
Highly anabolic, yet it's androgenic qualities are very limited
Increases muscle by catalysing muscle cell production
Has a specific mechanism which accelerates fat loss
Will improve mood and immunity
Lowers cortisol
Will protect tissues from catabolism despite low calorie intake
Has a higher affinity for the androgen receptor than testosterone
Will not aromatise into estrogen and also acts as an estrogen blocker
Is not liver toxic in oral or injectable form
Is long acting with a ten day half life - meaning a smoother user experience
Many have asked if Primo, with so many positive qualities, could be used as a testosterone replacement for low- T individuals. Gurus and trainers always respond it is not a good replacement and cite a study showing comparisons between T or Primo as a replacement therapy in older males. Results showed some comparatively negative outcomes with Primo which appear to be derived from pushing estrogen 'too low.'
However, based on Ray Peat's assertions, it would seem that any shortcomings could be ameliorated by the concurrent use of progesterone which has the ability to replicate ALL the supposed positive qualities of estrogen eg. bone density and LDL/HDL ratios, without the inflammatory, adipose and catabolic sides of estrogen.
Primo is an oral and injectable steroid. The orals are hard to come by, but fast acting. Due to a low molecular weight, primo injectables have higher volume than other anabolic steroids so 200mg requires 2ml of oil.
If you research primo on YouTube and in user reviews, this steroid is the gold standard of anabolics - smooth, lean gains over time and minimal side effects. It used to be very expensive when the only legitimate Schering Pharma amps were exported via the black market from Europe. Many fakes abounded, usually repackaged Testosterone propionate - which has a half life of two days max. Now, quite a few European small steroid focused labs make their own versions which work just as well as Schering's original. High black market demand for 'muscle heads' and those suffering from wasting diseases has ironically led to high quality, independent lab product. Primo has been a staple of AIDS therapy with it's favourable anabolic vs androgenic profile. It is also rumoured to have been Arnold's steroid of choice for gaining and cutting pre contest.
With it's estrogen and cortisol suppressive ability, anabolic resilience with calorie restriction and liver friendly metabolism, Primo is an anabolic steroid which flies in the face of the pariah status which continues to dog exogenous testosterone analogs whose benefits are persistently ignored in pursuit of a moral argument. As, more accurately, a DHT analog, Primo deserves more scrutiny in the Peat friendly arsenal of drugs which support a metabolic diet transition. I have previously used it and found it to be far superior to testosterone in terms of benefits, free of the spectre of the rollercoaster of estrogen sides. I never found it to be suppressive of my own T at 200mg per week. I will shortly embark on a combined primo / progesterone combo.
If anyone is in touch with Peat I would welcome his thoughts.
Highly anabolic, yet it's androgenic qualities are very limited
Increases muscle by catalysing muscle cell production
Has a specific mechanism which accelerates fat loss
Will improve mood and immunity
Lowers cortisol
Will protect tissues from catabolism despite low calorie intake
Has a higher affinity for the androgen receptor than testosterone
Will not aromatise into estrogen and also acts as an estrogen blocker
Is not liver toxic in oral or injectable form
Is long acting with a ten day half life - meaning a smoother user experience
Many have asked if Primo, with so many positive qualities, could be used as a testosterone replacement for low- T individuals. Gurus and trainers always respond it is not a good replacement and cite a study showing comparisons between T or Primo as a replacement therapy in older males. Results showed some comparatively negative outcomes with Primo which appear to be derived from pushing estrogen 'too low.'
However, based on Ray Peat's assertions, it would seem that any shortcomings could be ameliorated by the concurrent use of progesterone which has the ability to replicate ALL the supposed positive qualities of estrogen eg. bone density and LDL/HDL ratios, without the inflammatory, adipose and catabolic sides of estrogen.
Primo is an oral and injectable steroid. The orals are hard to come by, but fast acting. Due to a low molecular weight, primo injectables have higher volume than other anabolic steroids so 200mg requires 2ml of oil.
If you research primo on YouTube and in user reviews, this steroid is the gold standard of anabolics - smooth, lean gains over time and minimal side effects. It used to be very expensive when the only legitimate Schering Pharma amps were exported via the black market from Europe. Many fakes abounded, usually repackaged Testosterone propionate - which has a half life of two days max. Now, quite a few European small steroid focused labs make their own versions which work just as well as Schering's original. High black market demand for 'muscle heads' and those suffering from wasting diseases has ironically led to high quality, independent lab product. Primo has been a staple of AIDS therapy with it's favourable anabolic vs androgenic profile. It is also rumoured to have been Arnold's steroid of choice for gaining and cutting pre contest.
With it's estrogen and cortisol suppressive ability, anabolic resilience with calorie restriction and liver friendly metabolism, Primo is an anabolic steroid which flies in the face of the pariah status which continues to dog exogenous testosterone analogs whose benefits are persistently ignored in pursuit of a moral argument. As, more accurately, a DHT analog, Primo deserves more scrutiny in the Peat friendly arsenal of drugs which support a metabolic diet transition. I have previously used it and found it to be far superior to testosterone in terms of benefits, free of the spectre of the rollercoaster of estrogen sides. I never found it to be suppressive of my own T at 200mg per week. I will shortly embark on a combined primo / progesterone combo.
If anyone is in touch with Peat I would welcome his thoughts.