Best clot dissolving methods? DVT, calcification, fibrosis etc..

[cremes]

I'll second the "vitamin E" suggestion. Take a look at one of the books on the topic and how it's antithrombotic (dissolves clots).

Vitamin E for ailing and healthy hearts : Shute, Wilfrid E., 1907- : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Bibliography: p. 203-207

archive.org

 

[Inaut]

Black strap molasses apparently

 

[MichaelY]

Double wood. The only other ingredient is hypomellose...

Awesome, thanks

 

[Inaut]

View: https://youtu.be/R_4Jg1Sn-Xg

 

[ursidae]

I've had the displeasure of studying haemostasis recently... Not a pro yet, but I presume this has to do with increased plasminogen activator inhibitor 1. High PAI-1 observed in cancer and metabolic syndrome and obviously in fibrotic tissue. Angiogestin II induces production of PAI-1

 

[ursidae]

non-drug PAI-1 inhibitors according to pubmed.. estrogen, resveratrol, weightloss, exercise...

 

[Mito]

View: https://rumble.com/v173q0l-nattokinase-improving-blood-flow-and-preventing-blood-clots.html

 

[RealNeat]

Besides the mislead attacks on sugar and my general indifference/ cringe towards Mark Hyman this was a decent podcast with good suggestions.


View: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-doctors-farmacy-with-mark-hyman-m-d/id1382804627?i=1000537461818

 

[RealNeat]

I'm also trying to think about clots in the "Human Heart Cosmic Heart" sense. Very cool Peaty insights in there which get away from purely mechanistic thinking. Highly recommend the read.

 

[yerrag]

The subject of blood clots involve many causes, and for the worst cases, a combination of many. Hard to point to one substance to apply to all.

Having enough sulfur and enough sunlight exposure provides for conversion of cholesterol into cholesteryl sulfates that give our rbc's sufficient negative charge to repel each other, not that rbc's are behind clotting, but in cases of hemolysis it is contributory, and without it, the cholesteryl sulfates themselves help drive blood flow. And better flow always helps keep agglutination from happening.

And having good flow requires blood with good rheological characteristics, enabled by having high absolute zeta potential (as the lower zeta value, which is negative, equates to better flow characteristics). So avoiding aluminum in food and vaccines helps, and increasing intakes of potassium such as citrates from natural foods (industrial-based potassium citrate is a no-no, as it's made from molds) such as citrus fruits. I would mix 16g of lemon juice and 1g baking soda and let it sit to react to potassium citrate and dilute to a liter, and drink this in place of water throughout the day.

Since there is a lot of gunk in the bloodstream, this gunk also gets involved in the clotting process, from the benign effect of impeding flow like silt in a riverbed to being enmeshed in the clot itself. The gunk could be a load of red blood cells that are ruptured by internal microbes (red blood cells are considered tissue), or necrotized tissue from inflammation, from chronic infection chronic oxidative stress (acute conditions are not discounted), of our tissues and organs. Since these are internal and are invisible to us, it helps to have some markers to give us an indication, and LDH, ESR, hsCRP, and vsrious enzymes more specific to organs (eg SGOT, SGPT) would provide some clues. In the case of the liver, I've found using urea to improve my liver enzymes SGOT and SGPT and I believe this would lessen the probability of a dangerous clot occurring. I think in all this we have to see the bigger picture and discard the pharma model of having a silver bullet solution involving one pill or substance.

But I'm only at the tip of the iceberg. There is much more underneath that I can only hazard a guess. A newbie into plaque and arteriosclerosis, as I once was, may start to think of the blood vessel as a metal pipe that has accumulated calcium scales and think of approaching his vessels the same way one typically removes industrial scales simply with a descaling chemical. If you can't visualize this, then consider a water boiling kettle that has formed scales inside. If you stsrt making tea with this kettle, you'll find the scales soon gone. Because of the oxalic acid in tea.

Anyway, our blood vessels are more complex. A lot of microbes and toxins could just be buries underneath that multi-layer of plaque. If dealt with in haste, you could unleash forces that would resign you to the ER to be treated by specialists that will tell you they are just as baffled as you are, or they will use the term sepsis, when past death's door, or, but who cares at this point, say it's part of longhaul COVID.

 

[A-Tim]

The subject of blood clots involve many causes, and for the worst cases, a combination of many. Hard to point to one substance to apply to all.

Having enough sulfur and enough sunlight exposure provides for conversion of cholesterol into cholesteryl sulfates that give our rbc's sufficient negative charge to repel each other, not that rbc's are behind clotting, but in cases of hemolysis it is contributory, and without it, the cholesteryl sulfates themselves help drive blood flow. And better flow always helps keep agglutination from happening.

And having good flow requires blood with good rheological characteristics, enabled by having high absolute zeta potential (as the lower zeta value, which is negative, equates to better flow characteristics). So avoiding aluminum in food and vaccines helps, and increasing intakes of potassium such as citrates from natural foods (industrial-based potassium citrate is a no-no, as it's made from molds) such as citrus fruits. I would mix 16g of lemon juice and 1g baking soda and let it sit to react to potassium citrate and dilute to a liter, and drink this in place of water throughout the day.

Since there is a lot of gunk in the bloodstream, this gunk also gets involved in the clotting process, from the benign effect of impeding flow like silt in a riverbed to being enmeshed in the clot itself. The gunk could be a load of red blood cells that are ruptured by internal microbes (red blood cells are considered tissue), or necrotized tissue from inflammation, from chronic infection chronic oxidative stress (acute conditions are not discounted), of our tissues and organs. Since these are internal and are invisible to us, it helps to have some markers to give us an indication, and LDH, ESR, hsCRP, and vsrious enzymes more specific to organs (eg SGOT, SGPT) would provide some clues. In the case of the liver, I've found using urea to improve my liver enzymes SGOT and SGPT and I believe this would lessen the probability of a dangerous clot occurring. I think in all this we have to see the bigger picture and discard the pharma model of having a silver bullet solution involving one pill or substance.

But I'm only at the tip of the iceberg. There is much more underneath that I can only hazard a guess. A newbie into plaque and arteriosclerosis, as I once was, may start to think of the blood vessel as a metal pipe that has accumulated calcium scales and think of approaching his vessels the same way one typically removes industrial scales simply with a descaling chemical. If you can't visualize this, then consider a water boiling kettle that has formed scales inside. If you stsrt making tea with this kettle, you'll find the scales soon gone. Because of the oxalic acid in tea.

Anyway, our blood vessels are more complex. A lot of microbes and toxins could just be buries underneath that multi-layer of plaque. If dealt with in haste, you could unleash forces that would resign you to the ER to be treated by specialists that will tell you they are just as baffled as you are, or they will use the term sepsis, when past death's door, or, but who cares at this point, say it's part of longhaul COVID.

Zeta Potential / Pot Citrate

Zeta Potential Zeta Potential is the electric charge between solids in the blood. The higher the potential, the more powerfully the blood particles remain discrete, or separate, and the more...

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The above link suggests a similar recipe to you. Do you think distilled water is important? How did you come to the 16g lemon juice - 1g bk soda amounts?

Do you happen to know if Zeta Aid contains industrial pot citrate?

Thanks!

 

[yerrag]

Zeta Potential / Pot Citrate

Zeta Potential Zeta Potential is the electric charge between solids in the blood. The higher the potential, the more powerfully the blood particles remain discrete, or separate, and the more...

cancerprogram.weebly.com

The above link suggests a similar recipe to you. Do you think distilled water is important? How did you come to the 16g lemon juice - 1g bk soda amounts?

Do you happen to know if Zeta Aid contains industrial pot citrate?

Thanks!

I kept adding lemon juice to 1g of baking soda until no fizz. And I weighed the amount used of lemon juice.

If Zeta Aid is powdered, it would contain industrial potassium citrate. Unless the packaging states otherwise.

 

[Apple]

But I'm only at the tip of the iceberg. There is much more underneath that I can only hazard a guess. A newbie into plaque and arteriosclerosis, as I once was, may start to think of the blood vessel as a metal pipe that has accumulated calcium scales and think of approaching his vessels the same way one typically removes industrial scales simply with a descaling chemical. If you can't visualize this, then consider a water boiling kettle that has formed scales inside. If you stsrt making tea with this kettle, you'll find the scales soon gone. Because of the oxalic acid in tea.

Interesting ...you think oxalic acid can clean vessels ?
But have you noticed how tea cup is usually covered inside with brown film (after black tea) and it is not easy to clean. But vinegar cleans it pretty well

 

[yerrag]

Interesting ...you think oxalic acid can clean vessels ?
But have you noticed how tea cup is usually covered inside with brown film (after black tea) and it is not easy to clean. But vinegar cleans it pretty well

A water kettle has calcium scales, so tea boiling tea in that kettle will descale the inner wall of the kettle as the oxalic acid in tea binds with the calcium to form calcium oxalate. So it isn't farfetched to think that drinking tea can keep blood vessels from forming calcium deposits along its walls. But since one has to understand physical chemistry at a deeper level to be certain, I can only use the tea kettle as an example of what happens inside a calcium-scaled waterpipe with certainty, but not with blood vessels, as many other factors are involved.

It"s interesting about tea cups and tea and vinegar. Should try vinegar out for cleaning tea cups. Although I've not heard. of vinegar cleaning out kidney stones, I've heard of malic acid (of apple juice) being helpful in removing kidney stones. Not sure, but the kidney stones seem to be calcium oxalates. Probably the calcium oxalates become calcium malates and are excreted.

 

[Apple]

A water kettle has calcium scales, so tea boiling tea in that kettle will descale the inner wall of the kettle as the oxalic acid in tea binds with the calcium to form calcium oxalate. So it isn't farfetched to think that drinking tea can keep blood vessels from forming calcium deposits along its walls. But since one has to understand physical chemistry at a deeper level to be certain, I can only use the tea kettle as an example of what happens inside a calcium-scaled waterpipe with certainty, but not with blood vessels, as many other factors are involved.

It"s interesting about tea cups and tea and vinegar. Should try vinegar out for cleaning tea cups. Although I've not heard. of vinegar cleaning out kidney stones, I've heard of malic acid (of apple juice) being helpful in removing kidney stones. Not sure, but the kidney stones seem to be calcium oxalates. Probably the calcium oxalates become calcium malates and are excreted.

I think i will experiment with apple juice.
I kept a glass jar with lime water (solution of calcium hydroxide) for a couple of months and some calcium crystalized on the walls to the point that it was impossible to rubb off even with metal brush. But a light solution of a common white vinegar cleaned it within a day or two...I guess anything acidic can dissolve calcium deposits, but not sure about calcium oxalates.
I guess to prevent kidney stones one has to keep blood slightly acidic. At least that's what ray peat said.

 

[LadyRae]

I think i will experiment with apple juice.
I kept a glass jar with lime water (solution of calcium hydroxide) for a couple of months and some calcium crystalized on the walls to the point that it was impossible to rubb off even with metal brush. But a light solution of a common white vinegar cleaned it within a day or too...I guess anything acidic can dissolve calcium deposits, but not sure about calcium oxalates.
I guess to prevent kidney stones one has to keep blood slightly acidic. At least that's what ray peat said.

My 14 year old daughter has a history of UTIs and we have been able to improve her health substantially by cutting down on oxalates. While researching I have determined that anything with calcium in it specifically calcium carbonate, will bind to oxalates and the resulting calcium oxalate will safely be eliminated through the urine. Interestingly, when people are sensitive to oxalates, which resemble shards of class with a lot of surface area, these oxalates will Lodge into the endothelial tissues in the bladder and urethra and E coli loves to live on these surface areas, thus the UTI.

My daughter tolerates and dairy just fine, but she doesn't like cow's milk or goat's milk in her cereal. She will eat lots of organic yogurt, but she has settled on oat milk for cereal as opposed to the high oxalate almond milk that she had been drinking forever.... Even though most oat milks have added polyunsaturated fats unfortunately, we did find a brand, "Planet"-I think it was, it doesn't have as many added PUFA..

 

[cremes]

It"s interesting about tea cups and tea and vinegar. Should try vinegar out for cleaning tea cups. Although I've not heard. of vinegar cleaning out kidney stones, I've heard of malic acid (of apple juice) being helpful in removing kidney stones. Not sure, but the kidney stones seem to be calcium oxalates. Probably the calcium oxalates become calcium malates and are excreted.

I've seen suggestions here on this forum and elsewhere that vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is good for this purpose. Similarly, any of the citrates (magnesium, potassium, etc.) also contribute to minimizing kidney stones.

So while malic acid likely works, I see no simple reason why acetic acid (vinegar) wouldn't behave the same.

 

[LadyRae]

Regarding the OP, blood clots- policosanol reportedly protects against blood clotting and heart disease, even according to the WebMD blurb I just read... There is an interesting on-going current thread here in the forum regarding policosanol that I have been following... Worth a read...

 

[Apple]

I've seen suggestions here on this forum and elsewhere that vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is good for this purpose. Similarly, any of the citrates (magnesium, potassium, etc.) also contribute to minimizing kidney stones.

So while malic acid likely works, I see no simple reason why acetic acid (vinegar) wouldn't behave the same.

Then why high vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is associated with kidney stones ?

My 14 year old daughter has a history of UTIs and we have been able to improve her health substantially by cutting down on oxalates.

Almost all high oxalate foods are rich source of magnesium (and some calcium too) . Why would free oxalic acid form crystals in kidneys while it is unbinded in greens (spinach, chards) ? maybe it is just not enough liquid after all

 

[LadyRae]

Then why high vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is associated with kidney stones ?

Almost all high oxalate foods are rich source of magnesium (and some calcium too) . Why would free oxalic acid form crystals in kidneys while it is unbinded in greens ? maybe it is just not enough liquid after all

My daughter was also been experiencing bladder pain and pain while urinating even if she didn't have a UTI. In the last 3 months since she has been consciously avoiding high oxalic acid foods, this pain has almost completely disappeared.

She's never had a kidney stone, and I didn't know that high vitamin c intake was associated with this...