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Interesting, thanks for sharingI found somewhat ok apple juice from concentrate (so not strictly fruit) that immediately calms me down. I am mellow and willing to engage in conversations with my mom more.
Well cooked potatoes calms me down a lot as well and makes me warm. However half hour later I am borderline submissive, melancholic and anxious. Urge to self isolate occurs as well.
it is interfering with my emotions too and not in the way that endotoxin and blood sugar crashes from starch do. My head is clear immediately after consuming starch.Decided to have some low oxalate fruit a couple of days ago.......bad decision.
For 2 days I'd been dealing with intense emotions, either being a major angerfuelled person or feeling weepy....I guess in a submissive,learned helplessness way.
On top of it,I got this huge red/purplish rash on my lower leg (it looks like bloodvessels underneath the skin have bursted).
The emotions-on-steroids feelings brougth me back to my time eating a Peat inspired diet years ago.
Well lesson learned.....it's not for me! I like myself better as a calm,confident,strong person,how I've been living the last couple of years.
it is interfering with my emotions too and not in the way that endotoxin and blood sugar crashes from starch do. My head is clear immediately after consuming starch.
Do you find fruit to be addictive? It feels wrong to have something this enjoyable as a staple, feeling like a heroin addict
Too much fruit has always caused me manic thoughts and excessive emotionality. I remember Aajonus Vonderplaintz thought the same thing occurred in most of his clients. He claimed very few people would feel optimal on a high fruit diet, and that small amounts of fruit were best consumed with some form of fat.
I take everything he said with a heavy dose of salt. But I’ve noticed the trend as well. Very few people seem suited to consume fruit based diets, even when supplemented with nutrient rich foods and fats. Just my two cents.
Yeah, I was speaking generally “high.” I will say that ANY amount of fruit juice will cause me issues, and whole fruit needs to be super limited for me to feel optimal, and again, paired with some fat.You're speaking of a high fruit diet, I only had about 150 grams of fruit.
Apparently also too high for me
If anyone has observed how fruit affects their state of mind compared to well tolerated starches, please share
Interesting, thanks for sharing
Do you think this response has something to do with blood sugar levels?
Yeah, I was speaking generally “high.” I will say that ANY amount of fruit juice will cause me issues, and whole fruit needs to be super limited for me to feel optimal, and again, paired with some fat.
Berries and other low sugar fruits seem fine for me and most people.
So I think it’s obviously a blood sugar issue, at least in my case.
But look, I’m Russian and Irish. I can’t imagine any of my ancestors were consuming much fruit beyond berries, or occasional apples or whatever in warm seasons. This isn’t to say we must follow an ancestral diet, just a hypothesis for why I don’t respond well to high fruit consumption. Maybe people with more tropical ancestry handle high-sugar tropical fruits better?
I’ll also say that the sicker I’ve been overall, the less fruit I tolerate. And this is a trend I’ve noticed for most chronically ill people. Though there’s obvious exceptions.
Contrary to the overwhelming opinion around here, I don’t think high fruit consumption is optimal. This forum is literally filled with people over the years who fruit didn’t work for, regardless of what they tried to make it work, and felt much better with starch, usually combined with fat.
Maybe not so interesting, but my tolerance for sugar is fine. Just not fruit. Anything more than, say, a cup of blueberries a day and I start to feel wonky in the head.
I can also say from my limited experience with helping others, that fast oxidizers seem to react the worst to high sugar fruit.
@gately I was thinking the same,that seeing where I'm from,I'm probably not made for fruit either. Potatos are more a standard staple around here. Tried them years ago but weren't a good fit either.
I would've tried berries,but since they're high in oxalates they're not an option.
I feel done with the fruit now, I hope I can get my leg back to normal again.
I guess,I'm destined to remain lowcarb if I want to feel and function normally.....too bad it doesn't magically let me lose my bellyfat,like it does for most.
Just out of curiosity, how do you handle sugar? Obviously if you're benefiting from low-carb, I don't want to dissuade you. I do not think low-carb diets are inherently unhealthy like most on here people seem to think. (In fact, I personally feel optimal with a relatively low-carb diet, around 150 grams of net carbs, and wish I could handle going lower to 72 grams for all the other benefits). But I handle sugar much better than I handle fruit, though I still try keep my consumption on the low end.@gately I was thinking the same,that seeing where I'm from,I'm probably not made for fruit either. Potatos are more a standard staple around here. Tried them years ago but weren't a good fit either.
I would've tried berries,but since they're high in oxalates they're not an option.
I feel done with the fruit now, I hope I can get my leg back to normal again.
I guess,I'm destined to remain lowcarb if I want to feel and function normally.....too bad it doesn't magically let me lose my bellyfat,like it does for most.
I myself have wild blueberries often and enjoy having fresh lime/lemon with my water once a day.I think part of the problem is that people cast too wide a net when they talk about fruit or at best have small nuances like high/low oxolate. In my case (I'm Russian, Caucasian and Danish if it matters) I do fine with most berries and frequently crave lemons and limes but any other fruit has me feeling weird in the head or makes me gain fat. The unconditional love for fruit on this form is one of the two things on this forum that give me pause with the other being the mexicoke meme.