Xisca
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Makrosky said:I didn't found TRE particularly useful for learned helplessness, maybe a little bit yes, and even if someone does, I think it will still be very mild.
Anyway, I practised TRE a lot of times some years ago (before knowing about stress hormones/metabolism/Peat) and I found that after doing it and for 2-3 days, I was very relaxed mind and body and without stamina. I said, ok, it's good to be relaxed but what's it's use if I'm drained and have no "quick spark". Now I think what was happening is that I was constantly running on stress hormones, the TRE diminished the stress response/hormones, and since I didn't (or don't) have a good thyroid metabolism I felt drained because I had no alternative energy source developed. Does this make any sense ? Just guessing.
tara said:Wouldn't surprise me.
Or else you needed more rest, and it was just the stress response that was keeping you from it?
Or both?
Hmmm.... I don't think I needed more (in quantity) of rest by that time. Maybe I wasn't geting good (in quality) rest because of stress hormones, that's a different thing.
I agree with all this. I tend to be the same as Makrosky, running on stress hormone.
TRE is not specific enough, as it works on 1 muscle and out of the specific context of the person.
Comments:
Good to be relaxed: yes but not enough to solve any problem, because it will come back with the stimulus, unless you can avoid it.
no alternative energy: you cannot find it until you run out of the emergency state of funcioning with stress hormone. The body looks for what it needs only!
So yes, diet helps for thyroid, but also the specific work to stabilise the nervous system.
I have no interest in it, I do not advertise but I remind you that my tool is called somatic experiencing.
Also, the body has to cope with any new state, and it is not so easy, even when the new state is a nice one. This has to be contained and stabilised. You reached the limit of TRE, but I can assure you that it gave you an idea of the right track, and that there is somethiing else beyond this new sense of feeling drained.
It might not be relevant for you, but I can bring only my only example and experience. After feeling without the necessary energy, I got more conscious that I might not need to have that much energy all the time. I like to feel all the time ready "just in case something happens", but this is a tiring way of living, pumping stress hormones all the time. Of course I find it weird to experience another state, and give my body the oportunity to adapt and produce something else than stress hormones.