Photos from a 1972 Rothschild illuminati party

[pboy]

wow those ray peat quotes are amazing, very accurate and concise

the thing is, theres just greedy people with no sense of harmony or values and will do whatever to suit their needs...it doesn't matter what group they belong to or anything...theres thousands of them in all walks of life, probably in most nations

But like with a lot of things, you can usually, if you sense something is wrong and follow on an intelligent pursuit, find the answers and an outlet. Its extremely hard because schools, peoples parents, and media and most of the city is controlled as much as possible carefully by the mega corps and military serving their interests. Basically, you don't have to support these people...you can neglect, as much as possible, all of their products, services, and information (propaganda, salesmanship garbage, mental shackling). At least right now in this day and age...theres a chance to do this...I don't know how its always been. It is really crazy though, the amount of hold they have on all the people and all the land...and ways of life and thinking...makes being a healthy normal person very difficult, and socializing with most a waste of time or a defense against mental ***t spewing out, regurgitating...not to mention hard to get fresh air

 

[LucyL]

But when it’s done at the top, with capital, it isn’t conspiracy.

That's exactly what a Marxist told me when I enquired about freemasons.

The government never prosecutes itself under RICO....

ILTS is correct about Left v. Right is a distraction. It does exist on some levels (for example I would consider myself just about opposite of everything Madaline Murray Ohair stood for) but not where it matters (eg "at the top").

 

[Such_Saturation]

Ray Peat is much closer to anarchism which is almost feared more than communism. Sovereign Citizens are above Al Qaeda on F.B.I.'s list for example. Your idea of conspiracy is fallacious as Ray Peat and the Marxists point out. These people value the ability to turn against each other and the ability to shed remorse, ethics, etc. I'm sure Rotschild has little respect for most of its own, value is assigned very neo-Darwinistically.

 

[gretchen]

They are the richest people in the world. They don't give the faintest you-know-what about any of us.

Sources online say they have been in power "a long time", since the 1600-1700s at least.
http://4liberty.org.uk/2014/07/05/the-r ... thschilds/

 

[mt_dreams]

I'm not sure of the accuracy as the guy who wrote it seems to be a bit off the rocker. anyways, here's a quick timeline of the rothchilds, as well as the history of the money lenders.

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradf ... schild.htm
http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andr ... angers.htm

The system lends itself perfectly to the industrial revolution like mentality of building & conquering, go go go, do do do, all day long!

 

[narouz]

Ray Peat is much closer to anarchism which is almost feared more than communism. Sovereign Citizens are above Al Qaeda on F.B.I.'s list for example. Your idea of conspiracy is fallacious as Ray Peat and the Marxists point out. These people value the ability to turn against each other and the ability to shed remorse, ethics, etc. I'm sure Rotschild has little respect for most of its own, value is assigned very neo-Darwinistically.

It's an interesting question--where Peat resides politically.
I've seen him show sympathy for socialist-oriented philosophers.
But there are some tantalizing aspects of his life
which beckon many to feel sure he's a Libertarian.
Regarding the latter: personally, I very much doubt it....

Once when asked about being paid for his advice,
he said he suggested the prospective client pay 1/100th of her yearly earnings
(I think I have those numbers right, but not really important)....

 

[tara]

My recollection was 1/1000th of the years income, (ie about 2hrs wages for a full time worker), for attending a class with him.

 

[narouz]

My recollection was 1/1000th of the years income, (ie about 2hrs wages for a full time worker), for attending a class with him.

Yeah, Tara, I think you're right.

 

[Such_Saturation]

I don't find it an interesting question honestly. It's like asking him which brand of fish oil is better.

 

[gummybear]

But when it’s done at the top, with capital, it isn’t conspiracy.

That's exactly what a Marxist told me when I enquired about freemasons.

The word conspiracy is such a misused and abused word.

"A conspiracy theory is an explanatory proposition that accuses two or more persons, a group, or an organization of having caused or covered up, through secret planning and deliberate action, an illegal or harmful event or situation.[1][2][3]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

That means that two chessplayers can have a conspiracy. When you start searching for the hidden agenda you see that in every major conspiracy it is the same people that is controlling it. Same people, same agenda in every country. Different ideologies, or techniques, but the agenda is still the same. Why do you think bankers would finance the communist revolution in russia?

 

[gummybear]

Ray Peat is much closer to anarchism which is almost feared more than communism. Sovereign Citizens are above Al Qaeda on F.B.I.'s list for example. Your idea of conspiracy is fallacious as Ray Peat and the Marxists point out. These people value the ability to turn against each other and the ability to shed remorse, ethics, etc. I'm sure Rotschild has little respect for most of its own, value is assigned very neo-Darwinistically.

“The first man who, having fenced in a piece of land, said "This is mine," and found people naïve enough to believe him, that man was the true founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows: Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody.”- Rousseau

 

[Such_Saturation]

But when it’s done at the top, with capital, it isn’t conspiracy.

That's exactly what a Marxist told me when I enquired about freemasons.

The word conspiracy is such a misused and abused word.

"A conspiracy theory is an explanatory proposition that accuses two or more persons, a group, or an organization of having caused or covered up, through secret planning and deliberate action, an illegal or harmful event or situation.[1][2][3]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

That means that two chessplayers can have a conspiracy. When you start searching for the hidden agenda you see that in every major conspiracy it is the same people that is controlling it. Same people, same agenda in every country. Different ideologies, or techniques, but the agenda is still the same. Why do you think bankers would finance the communist revolution in russia?

To make more money.

 

[gummybear]

But when it’s done at the top, with capital, it isn’t conspiracy.

That's exactly what a Marxist told me when I enquired about freemasons.

The word conspiracy is such a misused and abused word.

"A conspiracy theory is an explanatory proposition that accuses two or more persons, a group, or an organization of having caused or covered up, through secret planning and deliberate action, an illegal or harmful event or situation.[1][2][3]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

That means that two chessplayers can have a conspiracy. When you start searching for the hidden agenda you see that in every major conspiracy it is the same people that is controlling it. Same people, same agenda in every country. Different ideologies, or techniques, but the agenda is still the same. Why do you think bankers would finance the communist revolution in russia?

To make more money.

How did they bankers made money out of the 1917 revolution in russia?

 

[Such_Saturation]

Let's quote a "conspiracist" blog:
<<Why did US bankers fund the Russian Revolution?
The funding of the Russian Revolution by US bankers had nothing to do with their desire to spread communism or with sympathising with the communist cause. They funded the Bolsheviks for three main reasons: The Russian Oil fields, the establishment of a Central Bank, and getting rid of the last Tsar:

Both America’s Standard Oil, which belonged to the Rockefeller family, and the Royal Dutch Shell, of which the Rothschild family were the major stock holders, had interests in the rich Russian oil fields. But these oil fields belonged to the Tsar Nicholas II.

The last three Tsars of Russia (Alexander II, Alexander III and Nicholas II) had always opposed the creation of a Central Bank in Russia own by the international bankers.

The Tsar Nicholas II was not only in the way of the international bankers in regards to the Russian oil fields and the Central Bank, but was also well aware of the banker’s plot to take over the world. The Bolsheviks did not only kill Tsar Nicholas II, they also killed all the members of the Russian Royal family; including women and children.>>

 

[gretchen]

It's not a conspiracy theory. The Rothschilds own half the world'a wealth. They control all industry. They influence and control all governments.

Why are RP followers so anti conspiracy theory? Does it have something to do with wanting to stay in a kind of comfort zone? Or do you think you might seem strange if you are interested in something the masses don't know about or understand? FFS, the Rothschilds thing should be common knowledge. No one has any excuse at this point for not knowing. It is a provable fact. But as for the idea that interest in conspiracies is a sign of being imbalanced and that once you're well you'll do "normal" things like shop or sunbathe or eat out and chat with friends or whatever is on the Ray Peat Approved WOL list.

Do you not want to understand how the world works? If you don't, why? Does history and facts not interest you? It's all out there as you heard on The X Files. Have you not heard of a book called The Secret Doctrine? The history of the Rothschilds has already been revealed.

 

[Such_Saturation]

Do you not see that these people are their own first victims? You're sounding a bit reductionistic here.

 

[charlie]

The head eating the tail.

 

[gretchen]

Do you not see that these people are their own first victims? You're sounding a bit reductionistic here.

People are to blame? Undoubtedly people are responsible for themselves. Everyone has created their own body and life. There actually are no victims.

There are unfair circumstances though, and the Rothschilds are the problem. They control and subtly influence public health through the media. They own it. There's no free press- everyone should know that. All scientific studies are bought and paid for by Big Pharma. The food supply is being wrecked by Monsanto, etc.

Ray Peat blames the government which they control and corporations which get government welfare and support for capitulating for our public health situation. The road leads back to them.
http://www.dailypaul.com/223527/rothsch ... ortune-500

 

[narouz]

Why are RP followers so anti conspiracy theory? Does it have something to do with wanting to stay in a kind of comfort zone?

My perception based upon forum postings
is that, amongst RP "followers" (this is probably the wrong descriptor, but...)
there is a pronounced "conspiracy theory" constituency.

You can see why that would be:
one of Peat's area's of interest is revealing how scientific truth is intentionally hidden beneath lies and propaganda.

To take just one piquant example,
quite a few posters here believe the CIA or Israel
(or some shadowy force other than those people generally considered responsible)
secretly perpetrated the 9/11 attack.

Here is an excerpt from the Wikipedia entry on the Rothschilds:

Conspiracy Theories
Over more than two centuries,[18][19] the Rothschild family has frequently been the subject of conspiracy theories.[70][71][72] These theories take differing forms, such as claiming that the family controls the world's wealth and financial institutions,[73][74] or encouraged or discouraged wars between governments. Discussing this and similar views, the historian Niall Ferguson wrote, "As we have seen, however, wars tended to hit the price of existing bonds by increasing the risk that a debtor state would fail to meet its interest payments in the event of defeat and losses of territory. By the middle of the 19th century, the Rothschilds had evolved from traders into fund managers, carefully tending to their own vast portfolio of government bonds. Now having made their money, they stood to lose more than they gained from conflict. The Rothschilds had decided the outcome of the Napoleonic Wars by putting their financial weight behind Britain. Now they would sit on the sidelines."[75] Many conspiracy theories about the Rothschild family have been identified as a result of anti-Semitic prejudice reaching back several hundred years, including the era of the Napoleonic wars, and not as a result of valid evidence.[76][77][78][79][80]

 

[narouz]

Here's a nice ripe one:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/listen....NOT.have.a.Rothschild.owned.Central.Bank.htm

I like the David Lynchian dark red curtains.
Note the last thing in the article, the quote.