Peatful
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Who?So last night I went to sleep feeling like many people on this forum have a lot of toxic shame. They project that on people when they claim something is doing them harm. It's literally the same thing as victim blaming.
Ya'll need to step outside and see the number of people who have abandoned many of the recommendations. I have seen a number of old time Ray Peat supporters following the toxic bile theory.
Let's just get past that. We don't live in a vacuum. We are all influenced by the people we trust. Especially when we are sick and vulnerable.
It'd be like blaming the patient when the doctor harms them. Saying you should have known better! No the doctor should have known better not to take advantage of a sick person.
I was taken advantage of by a prominent Ray Peat practitioner. Someone who a lot of people respected and trusted. He went against some things Ray taught but it was only slighted twisted. Deception has a slight twist. And being in a sick vulnerable state I didn't have much executive functioning. He also took advantage of me sexually. (And many others).
Same thing when I was raped in my own bedroom by a family member's friend at 16. I froze. I blamed myself for 'allowing it'. But now that society is trauma informed no one blames a woman for the sins of a man who takes advantage of the vulnerability of women (or men for that matter as men can be raped too).
We need to stop shaming people. When we are sick we don't always know what path to take. Many ideas were circulating that were harmful. We are changing course and helping people out of the rut they got in. And I still think Ray got some key things wrong, doesn't mean we go against all of his teachings, but we are free to speak about what was going wrong.
Healing is multi-faceted and we need to be free to talk about all aspects of healing whether it conflicts with a teaching from Ray or not.