Philomath
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Neither.
Not sure if you mean the forum in general or just VOS's list. If you were referring to the latter, I said it was a good start. I also said we should search Dr. Peat's work and the web to verify and build a consensus on the various points. If no consensus can be drawn, maybe the idea/recommendation isn't valid.
I'm not sure what your getting at, however, my first impression is that you may have misinterpreted what I said.
Many of us have quit diets/lifestyles before, because they inherently don't work. I am here, reading and living Dr. Peat's work, against popular norms, because I believe it.
So when I say "bouncing it off the forum wall", I mean the process.
Here's an example of how the process can be somewhat inefficient at times: One day B6 is recommended and people run out and purchase it. A few days later, P5P is suggested as being better and people run out and get it. Even later, people provide studies showing P5P can be dangerous. After that, people point out that it's best to get it naturally. So people buy orange juice and eat liver. But wait, it's been pointed out that if you are deficient, you may have to mega-dose supplements initially because you cant get enough through natural means. Is this efficient? healthy? normal??
I'm in favor of trying, experimenting and learning but there has to be an easier way. This forum is a blessing because it contains so much informative and practical knowledge. But it's not the Matrix, and I can't plug my computer into my head and download the forum knowledge-base - wish I could. Using the computer example though, if the knowledge in the forum were code, I feel any type of "guideline" would be akin to a GUI - something to get you where you need to go in the simplest manner.
That being said, I'll continue experimenting even if we don't have an official "protocol". For now I'll continue to utilize the "dietary guideline" link on the front page.
BTW, my initial post was about creating a name for this protocol or guideline because it makes it easier to share the knowledge with people unacquainted with Dr. Peat's work.
think these ideas about nutrition are perfect and/or unworthy of continuous flow and adaptation;
Not sure if you mean the forum in general or just VOS's list. If you were referring to the latter, I said it was a good start. I also said we should search Dr. Peat's work and the web to verify and build a consensus on the various points. If no consensus can be drawn, maybe the idea/recommendation isn't valid.
think you will simply "try out" this thing in the same mindset you have tried out many diets in the past, an approach which we can infer has failed unless you have quit diets which were working well, and thus an approach we can rightfully say should terminate or at least steer clear from any affiliations with Ray Peat's person
I'm not sure what your getting at, however, my first impression is that you may have misinterpreted what I said.
Many of us have quit diets/lifestyles before, because they inherently don't work. I am here, reading and living Dr. Peat's work, against popular norms, because I believe it.
So when I say "bouncing it off the forum wall", I mean the process.
Here's an example of how the process can be somewhat inefficient at times: One day B6 is recommended and people run out and purchase it. A few days later, P5P is suggested as being better and people run out and get it. Even later, people provide studies showing P5P can be dangerous. After that, people point out that it's best to get it naturally. So people buy orange juice and eat liver. But wait, it's been pointed out that if you are deficient, you may have to mega-dose supplements initially because you cant get enough through natural means. Is this efficient? healthy? normal??
I'm in favor of trying, experimenting and learning but there has to be an easier way. This forum is a blessing because it contains so much informative and practical knowledge. But it's not the Matrix, and I can't plug my computer into my head and download the forum knowledge-base - wish I could. Using the computer example though, if the knowledge in the forum were code, I feel any type of "guideline" would be akin to a GUI - something to get you where you need to go in the simplest manner.
That being said, I'll continue experimenting even if we don't have an official "protocol". For now I'll continue to utilize the "dietary guideline" link on the front page.
BTW, my initial post was about creating a name for this protocol or guideline because it makes it easier to share the knowledge with people unacquainted with Dr. Peat's work.