Twohandsondeck
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SCHOOL SHOOTINGS ARE A TRAGEDY.
Neither myself nor any sane person would argue with that.
In light of this agreement, I'd like to point out that anyone who dies under the age of 20 years old will have died before the BIBLICAL AGE OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
This means that they are guaranteed entry into an eternal heaven on account of their immaturity.
Naturally, this also applies to abortions.
Consider that someone who dies in these tragic ways might have OTHERWISE grown past the age of 20 and THEN died in their sins, going to hell eternally. In this sense, it is something to be thankful for; the believer will understand.
If I hear a news headline that says, 'tragic school shooting, 18 children and 2 teachers dead,' - I think, "18 people definitely went to heaven and 2 people may or may not have... hope they did."
> Killing people is NEVER good news. There is NO plausible argument for why SIN is good news. This is an argument as to why the good news (God is merciful) is good news.
+++The reasoning why the biblical age of accountability is as follows:
*REASON #1
The age of 20 is when someone may go to war:
Numbers 1:3
[3] From twenty years old and upward, all that are able to go forth to war in Israel: thou and Aaron shall number them by their armies.
Numbers 1:20
[20] And the children of Reuben, Israel's eldest son, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, by their polls, every male from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;
Numbers 26:2
[2] Take the sum of all the congregation of the children of Israel, from twenty years old and upward, throughout their fathers' house, all that are able to go to war in Israel.
*REASON #2
When Israel was about to enter into the promised land, only those who were both 20+ years of age AND murmured against God were not allowed to go in:
Numbers 32:11
[11] Surely none of the men that came up out of Egypt, from twenty years old and upward, shall see the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob; because they have not wholly followed me:
Numbers 14:29
[29] Your carcases shall fall in this wilderness; and all that were numbered of you, according to your whole number, from twenty years old and upward, which have murmured against me,
*REASON #3
When Israel was being numbered, every man had to give a ransom for his soul. The only men who were required to give a ransom for their soul were of the age of 20 and upward:
Exodus 30:11-14
[11] And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
[12] When thou takest the sum of the children of Israel after their number, then shall they give every man a ransom for his soul unto the LORD, when thou numberest them; that there be no plague among them, when thou numberest them.
[13] This they shall give, every one that passeth among them that are numbered, half a shekel after the shekel of the sanctuary: (a shekel is twenty gerahs:) an half shekel shall be the offering of the LORD.
[14] Every one that passeth among them that are numbered, from twenty years old and above, shall give an offering unto the LORD.
Exodus 38:26
[26] A bekah for every man, that is, half a shekel, after the shekel of the sanctuary, for every one that went to be numbered, from twenty years old and upward, for six hundred thousand and three thousand and five hundred and fifty men.
___________________
A contention:
> All of these verses are in the Old Testament, how do we know that they apply to the New Testament in accordance with the present dispensation of grace?
*those who are unsaved are still under the law. Saved folk are under grace, not the law. The above verses from the Old Testament are laws to be followed.
The "ye" in Romans 6:13-14 is a reference to the saved members of the body of Christ:
Romans 6:13-14
[13] Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
[14] For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Study courtesy of David Reid:
View: https://youtu.be/mGw699hesGI
Neither myself nor any sane person would argue with that.
In light of this agreement, I'd like to point out that anyone who dies under the age of 20 years old will have died before the BIBLICAL AGE OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
This means that they are guaranteed entry into an eternal heaven on account of their immaturity.
Naturally, this also applies to abortions.
Consider that someone who dies in these tragic ways might have OTHERWISE grown past the age of 20 and THEN died in their sins, going to hell eternally. In this sense, it is something to be thankful for; the believer will understand.
If I hear a news headline that says, 'tragic school shooting, 18 children and 2 teachers dead,' - I think, "18 people definitely went to heaven and 2 people may or may not have... hope they did."
> Killing people is NEVER good news. There is NO plausible argument for why SIN is good news. This is an argument as to why the good news (God is merciful) is good news.
+++The reasoning why the biblical age of accountability is as follows:
*REASON #1
The age of 20 is when someone may go to war:
Numbers 1:3
[3] From twenty years old and upward, all that are able to go forth to war in Israel: thou and Aaron shall number them by their armies.
Numbers 1:20
[20] And the children of Reuben, Israel's eldest son, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, by their polls, every male from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;
Numbers 26:2
[2] Take the sum of all the congregation of the children of Israel, from twenty years old and upward, throughout their fathers' house, all that are able to go to war in Israel.
*REASON #2
When Israel was about to enter into the promised land, only those who were both 20+ years of age AND murmured against God were not allowed to go in:
Numbers 32:11
[11] Surely none of the men that came up out of Egypt, from twenty years old and upward, shall see the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob; because they have not wholly followed me:
Numbers 14:29
[29] Your carcases shall fall in this wilderness; and all that were numbered of you, according to your whole number, from twenty years old and upward, which have murmured against me,
*REASON #3
When Israel was being numbered, every man had to give a ransom for his soul. The only men who were required to give a ransom for their soul were of the age of 20 and upward:
Exodus 30:11-14
[11] And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
[12] When thou takest the sum of the children of Israel after their number, then shall they give every man a ransom for his soul unto the LORD, when thou numberest them; that there be no plague among them, when thou numberest them.
[13] This they shall give, every one that passeth among them that are numbered, half a shekel after the shekel of the sanctuary: (a shekel is twenty gerahs:) an half shekel shall be the offering of the LORD.
[14] Every one that passeth among them that are numbered, from twenty years old and above, shall give an offering unto the LORD.
Exodus 38:26
[26] A bekah for every man, that is, half a shekel, after the shekel of the sanctuary, for every one that went to be numbered, from twenty years old and upward, for six hundred thousand and three thousand and five hundred and fifty men.
___________________
A contention:
> All of these verses are in the Old Testament, how do we know that they apply to the New Testament in accordance with the present dispensation of grace?
*those who are unsaved are still under the law. Saved folk are under grace, not the law. The above verses from the Old Testament are laws to be followed.
The "ye" in Romans 6:13-14 is a reference to the saved members of the body of Christ:
Romans 6:13-14
[13] Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
[14] For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Study courtesy of David Reid:
View: https://youtu.be/mGw699hesGI