thyroid log - ratio worries

[SQu]

It's making me pee more too! I'm just now noticing it cancelling out my T3 dose. Maybe it's just the increase triggering the ever-alert stress hormones. Or that tricky too- much- liquid issue that gets some of us. My juice is less concentrated, quite watery, no pulp.

 

[SQu]

Uupdate on thyroid - based mostly on pulse (easier to measure than temp as not easy taking mercury thermometer around, worried about breaking it ...) I'm adding a dose or two more inthe day, so far fine. Did have a little flushing experience that I learned something from:
I've been flushing for many years, attributed it to fair complexion and heat. Realized y/day it's not so benign. Started with possible difficulty digesting broth with 2.5 tsps (to taste!) salt. Rumbles, sloshing, bloating. Then flushing. Read RP rosacea article. Nitric oxide, mitochondria etc. Took 600 mg aspirin and wow! Put out the fire in.minutes. I'll.make sure to do that next time. Never realized all these years I've been having the hot flushes menopausal women spoke of.
Recently I did notice subtle decrease in slight rosacea signs _ veins on cheeks, slightly rough skin on nose, veins in eyes. Eyes whiter, nose smoother, veins mostly gone. Helpful to have surface signs of physiological processes to see progress by. I have one age spot too,on my hand, more faded than itappears in a photo taken 14 years ago.

 

[SQu]

Better quality sleep. Still wake many times, still toss, turn, take aspirinfor the aches. But feel more refreshed and clear, not groggy at 6am. Mood good, dreams positive. I've raised progesterone dose , take the t4 @ bedtime, and added niacinamide too. Hold thumbs it lasts. And is not adrenaline!
t3 late afternoon yesterday worked well. Afternoons are tricky usually, I get very tired. Got to watchstress hormones then.

 

[SQu]

Timing doses by pulse and energy, I'm using more T3. 3 - 4 doses a day, one 20mcg pill is lasting a bit more than 2 days, so my dose is a bit over 2mcg. One dose of between 5 & 11 mcg t4 @ bedtime - hard to gauge, such tiny amounts.
It's going really well . Recent improvements include better mood, energy, bit of weight loss, more comfort, less aching in joints (muscles got better a while back) and no PMS last month, no prolactin symptoms . I'm so glad I read the advice threads, and went smaller not bigger, as I know I avoided lots of timewasting misery with rt3 and too much T4.

 

[narouz]

Recently i have been drinking fresh cane juice and it is unbelievably good.

I want this food!

Just found this thread.
Peat may not be on board with polyphenols,
which are apparently abundant in fresh sugar cane juice.

Even so, I want cane juice and I want it now!

 

[4peatssake]

I want this food!

Just found this thread.
Peat may not be on board with polyphenols,
which are apparently abundant in fresh sugar cane juice.

Even so, I want cane juice and I want it now!

Here you go narouz

Sugarcane Island

I read about this particular product in this article:

Raw Sugarcane Juice Nature's Perfect Wonder Food

 

[narouz]

Thanks, 4peats.
Kinda makes you wanna grow your own sugar cane.

 

[Mittir]

Recently i have been drinking fresh cane juice and it is unbelievably good.

I want this food!

Just found this thread.
Peat may not be on board with polyphenols,
which are apparently abundant in fresh sugar cane juice.

Even so, I want cane juice and I want it now!

Peat is fine with polycosanol, a type of wax found on sugar cane.
I had to stop drinking sugar cane juice after finding out that
it is goitrogenic . I was having swollen gland after a week of
drinking juice from immature sugar cane, which was not sweet
, astringent tasting. My guess is that goitrogenic substance
is lower in sweet juice. I was drinking 1-2 quarts a day for a month and
it felt amazing. These were sweet juice.
One of the noticeable benefit was thicker and shinier hair.
I believe there is something special in that juice. It could be
policosanol RP talked about.

 

[narouz]

At one point I suspected I was losing thyroid effect
because of my big grape eating.
I researched grapes,
and there is at least one reputable study
showing anti-thyroid substances in grapes.

So I can imagine it in sugar cane juice.

Such a mixed review, Mittir!
The greatest food you ever drank,
but at the same time bad for your thyroid?

 

[j.]

Such a mixed review, Mittir!
The greatest food you ever drank,
but at the same time bad for your thyroid?
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Maybe it was my imagination, but I didn't read it as a mixed review, but that it was good when it was sweet, but bad when it wasn't.

 

[narouz]

I see how you could read it that way.
So Mittir:
Where do you stand with Fresh Sugar Cane Juice?

 

[Mittir]

@narouz

It has been more than a month that i stopped drinking sugar cane juice.
I still have the improved hair texture, it even improved eye brows.
I did a lot of googling and it is hard to find good information on sugar cane.
Probably because most of it goes to making sugar. Until i can find out
detail on goitrogen and if ripeness makes a difference or not, i will stay away
from it. If i remember correctly it is a cyanide type of toxin .

 

[j.]

I want to drink sugar cane juice now.

 

[narouz]

It sounds amazing.
What's a little cyanide? :-?

 

[SQu]

Another great reason to live in the tropics! On a mountain of course!

 

[SQu]

But seeing as I don't -
The OJ is going down better and better and I have a feeling this orange season (so much nicer a name than winter don't you think?) could be a turning point for my health especially if I get enough time in the sun and keep an eye on thyroid levels. Recent improvements - I used to get that asphyxiating feeling slightly when lying on my back, swollen thyroid maybe, neck fat, both maybe. That's gone! Bit of fat loss, much more comfortable, that abdomen swollen-like-a-drum feeling gone too, feel a bit better about myself.
Sleep unfortunately taken turn for worse. Really bad right now. Taking 3- 4 x 2mcg doses t3 a day, 5mcg t4 at bedtime, progesterone 25mg I just doubled to 50, not feeling it. B1,3 at bedtime too, think I can handle the blood sugar lowering of the 3. When I wake in the night I take 500mg aspirin and drink sugared milk. That used to warm me, get me back to sleep albeit temporarily, but not lately.

 

[SQu]

also, a couple of days I took more t3 doses and got no results. I realized I actually rt3'd them as feeling subtly more hypo can feel like nothing's happening. So cut back to 3 or 4. Also - constipated the past week when normally I'm not thanks to the carrot.

 

[narouz]

sueq, I've also struggled to figure out T3 only dosing, and mixed dosing.

Tough area, for me anyway.
So many variables in my life, hard to keep track of, try to integrate or be scientific about.

I'll give you a recent example.
I got palpitations, erratic rates, skipping beats for a while.
Threw me off, I think, for months.
Regarded it as surely overdosing on T3 (only).

Well, not so simple I now think.
My best guess now is Vitamin D deficiency.
I think that oversimplifies,
but I do feel D deficiency related to my weird pulses.
The D, K, and A network, anyway.

So the whole time I'm getting palpitations,
I cut back my T3.

Thus, I'm thinking in hindsight, allowing me to drop further into hypothyroid state,
and all the bad stuff that goes with it.

To complicate it, I would still guess that T3 dosing played a role.
Maybe not causative, in the main.

My pet working theory now is:
as my body throttled up from 2 years of Peating,
I didn't have the nutrient reserves to sustain that metabolism.
D, K, A, etc.

Another angle: my very stiff,
spasmy hips/lower back may have been promoted by lack of T4.
Seems from stuff posted here recently,
and maybe a blank spot for me,
is to see T4 as separate and useful part of the T Constellation.
We tend to demonize T4 a bit,
but maybe it does have important anti-inflammatory functions
one can't get from T3 alone.

Another devilish complication of this whole area
is the T3 Only planet.
Which I'm sortuv currently doing.
Including the additional wrinkle
of waking up to dose oneself
a couple hours before really get up.
Quite weird, but I can't say yet that there's nothing to it.
Also on the T3 Only planet
there is this notion that
by stopping T4 intake
one purges reverse T3.

More generally, my suspicion is,
if one has thoroughly poisoned oneself with PUFA, chronically,
there may be struggles off-loading.
Maybe especially if one does increase metabolism dramatically
and then, maybe, PUFA might be demanded by the body.
And not disposed of in the best way, by gluco-whatever-it-is.

It's a murky ocean
but Ray is a beacon.

 

[j.]

Glucuronidation

 

[narouz]

Much better than me, but not all the way there I don't think.